Living on the Go: Break Free and Embrace Your True Self

This episode is a fiery call to action for anyone stuck waiting for the "perfect" moment to chase their dreams. Joanie shares her candid journey from teaching PE to living full-time in an RV, and the bold steps that made her realize life is far too precious to postpone. Get ready to feel inspired and empowered to finally take that leap! 

In this episode:

• How Joanie and her husband sold everything to embrace a life of travel and freedom
• The power of community while living on the road—meeting strangers who become friends
• Overcoming fears of leaving behind material possessions and the safety of routine
• The importance of trusting your gut and acting on your dreams
• Tips for women hesitant to step out of their comfort zones
• The magic in connecting authentically with others and building your own village
• The mindset shift from postponing to living in the present moment
• Practical advice on downsizing, packing, and selling your home for good
• A reminder: It’s never too late to start living YOUR best life

Timestamps:

• (00:00) - The truth about waiting for someday
• (02:15) - How a chance encounter sparked a new life direction
• (04:00) - The beauty of community on the road
• (07:12) - From teaching PE to living freely in an RV
• (09:09) - How watching her parents inspire full-time RV living
• (12:34) - Encouragement for women to chase dreams today, not tomorrow
• (14:49) - Silencing the "perfect timing" voice — just do it
• (18:15) - The unexpected blessings of opening up and sharing stories
• (22:55) - Building community and overcoming fears of vulnerability
• (32:31) - The liberating power of decluttering and letting go
• (34:47) - One bold piece of advice: Just go for it!

Your story matters. 

Your dreams matter. 

Don’t wait for someday—start living today.

 The table is waiting for YOU. 

Share this with someone ready to take that leap, and keep showing up for the life you deserve! 

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Transcript

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How long have you been telling yourself you'll do it someday? I think a lot of us are really good at showing up for everybody else, but not always good at showing up for our own life. Today's conversation is about what happens when you finally decide to stop waiting and live a life on the go. I met today's guest at an RV Creators Workshop in Tampa. And yes, we bonded immediately. Well, Joni and Joni. What really stuck with me was this. She's living a life now that she once postponed, and she's willing to talk about both sides of that. Welcome to Big Talk at the Table. I'm Joni Lee. And today we're having one of those conversations that I think a lot of people need to hear. Especially if you've been telling yourself someday a little too long. Because today's guest isn't just talking about a different kind of life. She is actually out there living it. Her motto right now is on the go. And baby, it fits her perfectly. She and her husband sold the house. They let go of what they used to define as their life, and they stepped into something completely different. A life full of travel, adventure, and a kind of freedom she wasn't always sure that she was ready for or she even believed in. So welcome my guest, Joni. I'm so glad you're here. And let's start right off where we met. We met at the Tampa RV show, somewhere we had not really had on our game plan. Like we did not have Tampa, but I was talking to some other RVers and I was watching on um social media that this was the place that we should go. And I was starting out as a content creator in the RV space. I'd already been one in the wellness area, but not in the RV space. And I wanted to meet other RVers who were doing what we were doing. And we changed our plan and went to Tampa. And matter of fact, we didn't really go to Tampa. We had to drive an hour in every day, right, to get there. And I signed up for that RV creators workshop. And that's where you and I met right away. Well, first we bonded because our names were Joni. How many Joni's out there, right? In the world. And then we found out we have the same middle name as well. Which I was like, I said, we are kindred spirits. And so I am completely honored that you asked me to speak today. So thank you. So a little bit about that event that we went or we met at. Same thing on it was not on my radar. In fact, I had kind of just started my RV life and I didn't know I wasn't sure about being a content creator. I really wasn't into showing my life of how I clean the RV or my black tanks, all of that. But something just kept drawing me like I need to go to this event. And so I went and I was deer and headlight. I had absolutely no idea what I was doing there. I had no idea why I was there. And I meet you. And then not only do I meet you, who has the same name and same middle name as me, we meet a third Joni there. So in the RV creator world, there's three of us. And uh I think that's pretty spectacular. So we met, and you know, you do such a great job of showing your life on the road, and that was never my calling, but you do such a great job of it. I know I was following you before I even met you at the creators event. And I was following you because I had seen you on some of my RV groups that I had belonged to. This lady looks super fun and she has the same name as me. And I would love to get to know her better. Wow. I did not know that. So it's you yeah, so you never know who's really out there paying attention to what you're putting out into the world, right? And I think that's such a really cool thing that social media and the internet allows us to kind of connect with each other that way. And so Sherry is in Tampa, same name, you know, and I had no idea your backstory. I didn't know that you weren't planning on going there. And um, I do believe that, you know, everything has a purpose and everyone crosses your path for a reason. And so um, I'm so glad that you crossed mine, and we're sitting here today having this amazing conversation about this fabulous life that you're leading now. So I feel blessed. Tell us how you like who are you on the road with? Well, I am on the road with uh the other half, Joe. So we are on the go with Joni and Joe. Gotcha. So I am uh Joni, a 35-year physical education teacher, teaching little elementary kids, a life of wellness and fun and movement. Um, so on the go has kind of always been the way I've lived my life, but within the parameters of having to teach for 35 years before I could move on to our next life. We just couldn't give up the pension that comes with being a teacher. And I'm on the road with my hubby Joe. We've been married for 34 years. It'll be 35 in August. And we just are like, wow, we're living this life that we just couldn't even imagine being in our technically nine to five. We loved our life. Don't get me wrong, we loved our life before RB. But, you know, I was going all day. I would wake up and work out before work. I would go teach elementary PE all day, and then at five o'clock, I'd go play pickleball for two hours, get home at 7:30, and all those great meals that Joe cooks on the road, he'd have waiting for me when I'd get home. And I did that five days a week. It was like, I don't know how I survived, right? Well, so those that don't know what she's talking about, for those who don't know what she's talking about, she does, you're gonna have to follow her, but she does a thing where it's called Joe Cooks and Joni eats. Oh my gosh. Well, Joe now thinks it should be called RV eating yet. So we're kind of transitioning a little bit. It's really kind of cool. Joe just loves to cook, and that's how we picked the RV that we're in, is because it it's technically called a grand kitchen, so that he wouldn't skip a beat. So we just feel blessed that we're living this life that we could only imagine would be so amazing. We're floored. So your RV life looks so fun and so full, and you do a great job of like bringing all of that to life, I think, through social media. But tell me, what was your life like before RV life? You talked a little bit about your PE, your teaching, and but what did it look like for you? So for me, it was always living for the weekends, living for the holidays. And as a teacher, we got lots of holidays, living for the summer. I loved my job teaching PE. Like I just loved it. Like it wasn't something that it was a drudgery. I loved it till the last minute. My first school I taught in, I just got a message that it is closing and I cried, right? And I'm getting all these messages from all these kids that I taught throughout the years. And so I had a very rewarding career. But when I got the numbers, I was like, you know what? It's time to move on. We're healthy, we're young, it's time to be able to move on. You know, I had a great community before we went on the road. Uh, I had my pickleball community that I was very tied to. And matter of fact, I had to postpone our beginning life to stay around Pennsylvania and for like three months so I could go to a pickleball girls' weekend, you know. I'm not willing to give up community. And so Joe was a carpenter for 35 years, like amazing. Was a Finnish carpenter, he made custom chartreuderie boards. If you could see our table, that I know you probably have seen the post, it's so stunningly beautiful. But he was ready to be done, you know? He was like, I've done this, there's something more, but we did set ourselves up for retirement well. And so you had a little bit of help, I think, in this part of the story because your parents traveled this lifestyle for quite a few years, right? Yeah looking at that, did you ever think when you were watching them do it that that you would be doing this at some point in your life? So when we had when the kids were little, we have a daughter, Kelly, and a son, Paul. They're right now 31 and 28. And when they were younger, we did camp. We called it camping. We camped every other weekend. We had a couple other couples, we had family, and we camped. And we would camp with my mom and dad. My mom and dad, full-time RVers for 27 years. They just recently had to stop being full-time, but we have planned a week with them in Downingtown. I'm so excited when we go back home. So we did have the camping thing, right? And we held on to some of the camping things in our basement, in our home for like 20 years, right? We had to stop camping because our children were very heavily involved in sports. And we were at tournaments constantly from every other weekend to every weekend. And as I told you, it worked out because our daughter, you know, played college field hockey at the University of Maryland. She was on the national team for field hockey for Team USA, was represented the United States at the Olympics, like a lifelong dream of our families. So, you know what? Giving up camping during that stretch of our time was important. We just couldn't, well, first of all, we couldn't afford international trips to watch Kelly play field hockey or afford all the tournaments that we went to, um, and also fit that in. So we gave it up. Now, funny story, I I lost track of time, but forever, Joe. Every time we saw somebody drive by with a camper, he'd say, They're camping. They're camping. I think Joe had a little message for like 10 years, all right? And so now we laugh about it. I'm like, we're camping. Oh no, we're RBing, whatever word you want to use. Yes. So we watched my mom and dad for 27 years. We spent a little bit of time with them out on the road, um, and just kind of felt natural. We loved our life in Honeybrook. We loved it. That's our hometown, but our kids weren't there anymore and they weren't coming back. They one's in Charlotte and one's in Washington State. We're in Washington State right now on our way to spend a good quality like six weeks with Paul and his wife Ashley. Kelly will be flying out. Kelly loves sleeping on the couch. Yeah. You know, but that's this is now your home, right? So kids are gonna come to you wherever you are, you're gonna go to them wherever they are. And I think that's a lot of women can relate to that because a lot of kids, wherever they grew up, they're not coming back. Like they're not, it's not, it's a different generation right now. They're not staying put and staying in the small communities like maybe we grew up in, and they're wanting to experience the world too. Yes, and that's why we said this is the time we we planned our retirement. I retired in June because that's the end of the school year. I I told Joe he had to wait until August because teachers don't get paid in the summer, and I wasn't gonna get a pension check. And then one day in July he looked at me and said, I'm done on Tuesday. I'm like, Okay, we're done. Yeah, I had enough. I can't wait. I think that's I think that's probably so many people can relate to that because a little bit of that is like it's the fear of the unknown, right? And it's the fear of you're not in your comfort zone anymore. And so, like, it gets to the point where he's just like, okay, we gotta take action. Like, we planned and we planned. And I want to say, what do you think for women out there who have this dream? And trust me, my dream was never to travel in an RV. I hate camping. That was not my dream. So if I would have been driving by those people in the camper being like, dummies, they're camping, like they're camping. I would have had a different reaction than Joe's comment. But mine would have been so different. But here I am, and I love the life that I'm living right now. But what would you say to those women? And maybe it's not the dream of camping, but maybe it's just a dream of doing something else with their life. What would be kind of a word of encouragement that you could give them? You know, it you said it. It's like we get stuck in our comfort zone in what we do day in and day out that we don't even realize the the time and the days are slipping away until it's all of a sudden you're like, oh man, like, and then I think some people, women, might feel like, well, I'm too old to do that. I can't, you know. You're not. If it's in your heart, you will find a way to make it work. And I I'm fortunate enough to have Joe, who more than he kind of put it onto my heart as well because I kind of resisted for a while. We're talking, you know, the the all the years he was saying they're going camping. I kind of resisted, you know. I was like, nah. And then all of a sudden, I was just like, you know what? There's so much out there in this world that we're now seeing. And yesterday we're driving the truck on a beach in Washington State, which I can't believe Joe did. And just on Friday, we were snowshoeing in Mount Rainier. Like, yes, dark differences. And it's because we simply just said, let's just go, let's just go, let's just figure it out as we go. And I think some people have a hard time just figuring it out as you go. Well, that was my next question to you, which is like for the woman who's listening, who's like, and it sounds like you were a little bit like this like I'm gonna wait for the perfect timing, right? Like, I wanna wait till August. I wanna wait till the pickleball. Like, they'll always be I'm gonna wait for, right? So, what would be like your best like words of encouragement to the I'm working, I'm gonna wait for the perfect timing. There is no perfect timing. Life is a mess, right? And it just depends on how you figure it out, but you can wait forever. And as I said, and all of a sudden you'll you'll be like, What did I wait for? Why did I wait? So you know how Nike says, just do it, just do it. Whatever it is that you want to do, whether it's live in an RV for, you know, and travel, or if you want to start being a pickleball player, you know what I mean? Don't you just have to find that. I know. I'm like, there are people who don't play pickleball because they don't they don't know, you know what I mean? And they want to play and they see right and they see people playing and people posting about it. So we're talking as simple as that. And I know what I try to do is in my posting, I want to show people that this is something that's doable. And believe me, anybody I see on a pickleball court, I welcome them in and I will teach them and show them how to play because I I just want other people to do that. Well, I know so that's I think that's the biggest thing with women, and we need more women like you and I in the world because I had the same experience with golf in Florida this winter. I I wanted to play golf and there was a league, and I didn't know anybody playing, but some women were playing. I was like, well, I'm gonna sign up to play. I'm not good at golf, I love golf, but I'm not out there to like win some sort of championship or whatever. And so I went out for the fun of it. And the minute I went out and I just got it out of my head, I don't care what these people think of me. Um, I had the best time met the best people. And then what happened was I found women who were staying in the same RV park as me who also wanted to play golf. But guess what? They were afraid the same thing as me, and they just didn't have enough in them to go take action. And so it takes women like us to kind of sometimes tell them it's okay. You don't have to be good at it, you don't have to, you know, show up with the championship ring on. We're just gonna come and have fun. So it's talking about including women, right? Just being inclusive, yeah. Percent, you know, women, I think we get in our heads too much, and um, we don't do things because we we don't have a friend to do it with. One thing that R V life has taught me is that I have to put myself out there. You know, I talk to everybody, and sometimes Joe is like, really? So the best story happened yesterday. We were at the Walmart in Aberdeen, Washington, because it was the closest store. It was 37 minutes from the campground, but it was the closest one. And we get back to the milk aisle, and there were like 10 people standing at the milk aisle, and we're like, What the heck? So, of course, I strike up a conversation with somebody because that's what I do. And I struck up a conversation with this elderly woman, and I was like, You guys are waiting for milk, and she's like, Yeah. And I said, Well, we're in an RV, right? And she goes, Oh, my niece owns an RV park. And I go, Where? And she's like, in Downingtown, Pennsylvania. And I said, Oh my gosh, I'm staying at that RV park for six weeks, coming up at the end of the summer, and ends up being I'm friends with her, right? Like, you know what I mean? So I was willing to just strike up a random conversation with somebody, then I'm taking a selfie and sending it to the owner of the RV park in Downingtown. I made her day and I made this Auntie Ann's Day, you know, because you, you know, like right now it's me and Joe, right? Joe got his wish, he got me for 247, 365, right? So, and we still love each other. Right? I was gonna say, is he rethinking that wish yet? No, not at all. Are you kidding? He's like, this is amazing. We have to put ourselves out there, and um, you know, that's a comfort zone thing as well. And I I love people, I love chatting with people, I love hearing their stories and learning about them and finding some common connection. That's how we got connected. Yes, and I agree with all of that. I am the same way, I am by myself, so it's a little different because I have to go talk to people because I mean, I've got nobody here now to talk with, other than I'm if I'm doing a podcast and I'm telling somebody's story. But my everyday life, I really put myself out there and I really just try and find one thing to connect with somebody with. And then it seems to find that when it's like you and I, when you are really real, when you're really genuine, when you really care, and people can tell that, they end up telling you their life story and they've met you all of five minutes, and that's the difference, right? And that's really what this podcast is all about. It's talking about big talk, it's talking about, you know, not the small fluff stuff. It's making yourself be real. Yes, you had these fears, yes, you felt this way, but once you've done it, you're here to tell other women, hey, you can do this, you could do the hard thing, right? Yeah, and here's the thing if I strike up for a conversation and they don't respond, I just go, I just keep moving on. You know what I mean? It's it's it's okay that not everybody is going to have my vibe, and that's right, it's okay. Um, you know, but I genuinely believe as humans that we crave connection and that that is our lifeline, whatever that connection. And and do I I miss my pickleball crew definitely, and you know what? But I found a pickleball crew when I went to Viewpoint RV park when we were in Mesa, and they were at the end like, you have to leave, can't you come back? We're gonna come back next year, but we're gonna stay longer, right? So I will go back to that RV community again because the people were so welcoming, and you know, but we've gotta be honest. I also went to a community that was not kind and welcoming and didn't make me feel good. That's right, no, and that's what that's what I want a lot of listeners to take away from this because it's not just in the R V community, right? It's in our own communities. So if we're not being women who we're supposed to be and what we're supposed to be doing, which is uplifting other women, then we're not doing any of our communities any good, right? Whether it's RV community, whether it's your own community, it's about opening up your table to invite those others in. Because I had this conversation with someone else, and I was like, it's just like grade school. Remember when you were walking out of the lunch line and you had your plate of food and it's elementary school and you have to find a table to sit at? And I didn't have one group of friends that I sat with every day. So every day I remember that pit in my stomach taking my tray off of there and turning around and looking at this big room and crap, where am I gonna sit? And I know that kids feel that way today too, but we as adults, we still feel that same. There's that little girl still inside of us pulling that lunch tray off the line, going, crap, is somebody gonna welcome me into this group or not? And so I'm hoping that this podcast will enlighten women to see what kind of woman are you being to your community? Are you being the welcoming woman or are you being the one that looks down and just keeps eating and doesn't look at that person because you don't want to make eye contact with them? That is such a great analogy and brought back some memories, right? Maybe not so fun. Right, right. You know, um one thing that's what I could have used, I should have used a better example. I should have said gym class. This is another one that hits home to me. Um, remember we played that game where there'd be one kid one side, the kids were on one side, the kids were on the other side, and they had to pick, they had to pick teams, like kickball or something. Yes, and you never wanted to be the last one picked. So I was not that kind of PE teacher, right? So good. Of course you weren't. I still am connected with kids, thank God through social media, kids that I taught 20, 25 years ago, and so many of them have reached out to me throughout the years, and I value that. Why? Because back in the day at my first school that I was at 12 years ago, I ran a jump rope program and it was a demonstration team called the Jazzy Jumpers. And so many of them over the years have said, Mrs. LePage, that was my greatest childhood memory, and that's what I wanted for my kids, you know, that I have taught over the years that that they would value activity and that look they still have that community that they were jazzy jumpers and they they're like, we still brag about it, you know. So I wasn't that kind of PE teacher, I was the kind that wanted everybody to love what they were doing, but you know, in this RV community, because like let's say Joe and I have just been Joe and I for probably about a month, like I haven't had pickleball for about a month, right? And it's just me and him. So where do I find other community that's not maybe physical? Well, you have the she roams community, which is for women who are careers. I don't know if you've heard of them, nomadic influencers, those are all, and most of them are all women that I am in a group thread with that I can chat with and and run ideas off of. The learn to RV crew that that you have a podcast with, they're amazing. I feel like with social media, we can build that kind of community and then hopefully meet up out in the real world, which is what I what I thrive for. Like I randomly um couple reached out to us and we were chit-chatting, and we found out we're both going to be in the same campground for the same three weeks. And I was like, I don't know who you are, but I hope you're not axe murderers because we're gonna get together. I don't Kelly, our daughter, always laughs. She's like, Because mom will meet anybody, and she's like, Are you sure they're safe, Mom? Yes, they're safe, Kelly. Well, I have to tell you, I'm the same way, and I met I met somebody in Tennessee, and he owned a flower shop, and he was like, Do you want to come and set up a wedding with me? Yeah, I want to go. So he came and I picked he picked me up. We went to this most beautiful, beautiful spot in Tennessee for a wedding reception summit. I up on this beautiful mountain. We're driving up the mountain, and he looks at me and he goes, You were okay coming with me. And I was like, Yeah, I don't think my kids were all that excited about it, but I felt like okay. And he goes, This is my favorite line. Yeah, what are the chances that we're both serial killers? You're right. It's being trusting, it's trusting your gut. Yes, trusting your gut. But you know what though? It is putting yourself out there and it is opening up to you're right, I'm not gonna be everybody's cup of tea, and you're not gonna be everybody's cup of tea, but we are somebody's cup of tea, and so it's by opening yourself up, you put yourself out there to find your village. If you don't open yourself up, you're not gonna find your village. And this lifestyle could become very, very lonely, you know, if you didn't have it. I mean, you're a single woman doing this, and you just can't talk to your dog all day. You know what I mean? That's part of life, right? I mean, I did I did have her, and now you're right, and now I don't. I have to get out, I make myself get out and talk to three people every day, at least three. And I have to get out of the RV because so much of my life is doing this and being in the RV that I have to take a break and I have to have that downtime, and I have to go meet people and interact with people because I crave community. I crave I love people, I love their stories, and that's what you know. You yes, same thing. All right, so I have a question for you. I have a question that I ask each of my guests. It's called Be Honest. So be honest. I want to ask about the tutus. So, how many tutus did you own? How many? And did any of the tutus make the RV closet? So I got the first part of the question, which was how many tutus did I own? And I had probably any make the RV. I could Joe's here right now. Joe would not let any of them. Not that he wouldn't let them. So I did have a uh, I guess, obsession with tutus. Being an elementary physical education teacher, it was just a gimmick, and the kids loved it. And and if a little kid had a tutu on and I was wearing one too, it made them feel special. And I loved to dress up. I was a Dalmatian for the first day of school. I did my post yesterday about May the 4th, be with you. It was my first time not to dress up like Chewbacca or R2D, you know, or CP3O. For my 60th birthday, my running buddy surprised me with a pink tutu that we were matching, and we did a mud run together. It just is, you know, like we were literally the only ones in pink tutus running a mud run. When I retired, all my girlfriends, and I didn't know this, I showed up at we we had a bar crawl through the town of Westchester, which is where I taught. So imagine there were 20, 25 of us all in tutus doing a bar crawl through Westchester. Uh, I saw a few students that that night, and it was fun, and not one of them made the RB. Not one. I don't know if the people I don't know if the people out in the world here could handle Joni coming in with a tutu because they wouldn't know my back worry. They'd be like, what the heck? So instead, I have these really cute outfits I wear all the time, right? So yes, yes, so they they are in the storage unit back in our hometown. We have a little storage unit, and I could not part with all of them. Uh so I donated a few to her. Um, but none make the RV. You know our closets are not big enough. And yeah. So I'm gonna switch gears a little bit. I'm gonna bring us back to the tutus because that's just my fun, that's my fun question. But I love the tutu thing. I hope I hope you go back and steal one out of your storage unit and bring it along. But I want to know you brought up a storage unit, and that's that's the one thing I want to kind of talk about. And I didn't want to skip over this before we end. Sold your house, sold your cars, you know, downsized into a storage unit, got rid of most of your stuff. Scary or freeing, or a little bit of both. So it was remarkably freeing, right? It remarkably, yes. We had lived in that house for 30 years, loved our house. We had had an in-grand pool with the most fabulous sunset, we had parties there all the time. We loved our home, right? And when we decided, we literally put the house on the market. It sold within a week, luckily. We had two months till closing, and we sold everything within that two months. It was a heck of a two months, and we we launched on August 14th. In that two months, Joe would crack up because I would have something on Facebook Marketplace, and the person would come to buy it. And I'm like, Would you like to walk around the inside of my house and go for your own little personal garage there? Joe was like, seriously, they're strangers. I'm like, I don't care, they want to buy it. There were certain things that we couldn't part with. Joe had built a really cool bar, and the top was solid mahogany, had a built-in AC do see board. It was stunning, and he couldn't, obviously, we were not gonna part with that, you know. Right. So we and then I have like whoever was a scrapbooker back in the day, I got like 32 scrapbooks. What am I gonna do with those? The kids don't want them, all the tutus. Well, you had to save the tutus too. So we had to get a storage unit. Now, here's the thing: I told Joe, we're only having that storage unit for a year. So in August, we have to make some decisions. And here's why. My parents had their storage unit for 25 years. 25 years they paid for that storage unit, and they paid for it. It was in my hometown because they they had uh lived in New York before they um uh went on the road, so they brought all their stuff down to because they were only gonna be on the road for a year, yeah. Yeah, 25 years. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They had the yard sale, so they haven't had the storage unit now for uh two years. I was like, we're not gonna be those people, we're not gonna like we have to figure out what to do with that stuff because we paid for the storage unit for year. Um and it's it was hard. Yes, it is hard, but it's not scary. And I'm so glad you said freeing because that's exactly how I felt. It was so freeing. I it was unclogging my life. It that's really what started it all for me was starting to get rid of materialistic things, but then I realized it wasn't just all the material things, there was way more healing that I had to do. So I'm glad you said freeing because that's exactly how I felt too was it was freeing. And so I think a lot of women are scared to get rid of things that are sentimental, you know, oh my kid's first tooth, or oh, this. And there are some things like that that I kept too, but not a hoard of them. And so it can be, but it once you start doing it, you're like, oh, this feels great, this is awesome. Yeah, and then that's a freedom. It it really like you know, so many people talk about living in an RV, you're free, you got freedom. Well, there's some freedoms, yes, of course, like freedom to move wherever you want to do, but you know, obviously, there's it's not all waterfalls and beautiful hikes. There's the other parts that also, you know, you're you end up in the repair shop, or you have a split in your tire and you have to put your plans on hold. We do feel free in the fact that we have our RV truck, like and that storage unit. That part is gonna get we're gonna have to get rid of that part. So I think people are and women are attached to their things. Um, but we have mentally prepared ourselves for that. We had a whole year to mentally kind of prepare for that because the postponing part, I had planned on retiring at 59, but then found out that it was better to retire at 60. And so I worked a whole extra. That's a different, so that's that's wise planning, right? That's not that's not fear, that's not postponing it because of fear, that's postponing it because of some wise planning, right? And there is a difference between those two things, yeah. So I want to kind of wrap up here. I want to wrap up here and ask you one last question. What is one piece of advice that Joni would give someone who is standing on the edge of a new chapter, whatever that looks like for them, but they're just afraid to move. So this one hits home. You really just have to go for it. Simple and easy, whether it's scary, whether you have it all planned out or not, because seriously, you cannot plan out everything. If it's in your heart and it's something that you truly believe would be the best move, you simply have to just go for it. Just go for it. And that, Joni, I'm gonna end with telling you you live that motto to a T. You are on the go, and that is a great name for you because I have to believe that you were on the go even before you were RV traveling. So I know that name fits you. I want to thank you so much for taking time and us working through our technical difficulties to get this in because I think that your story is going to be so relatable to so many women out there who are sitting on this edge of what do I do and how do I make that happen? So thank you for telling your story today. I appreciate you, Joni, so much. I'm honored to have been a guest on your podcast. So thank you. And let me tell you, that is what this table is all about. It's about real conversations, honest moments, and reminding each other that we're really not alone in any of this. If finding something in this episode resonated with you, or you found yourself thinking, hey, they're talking, and that sounds like me too. I hope you'll keep coming back and make sure to hit subscribe, follow along, and share this episode with someone who might need the reminder that you know what, it's never too late to stop postponing your life because there's always a seat waiting for you at this table. And when women show up and be real and be raw and be honest and open, you know what? That's where the magic happens. So until next time, keep showing up, keep being real, and keep having the conversations that matter. And remember, you got this.